On stage and in english, Vasilis Ververis and Ksenia Ermoshina about Internet , at

"In France, the government pays for censorship. In Russia, the ISP has to pay for it."

"In Russia, all blacklists are public. Anyone can see them. In France, they are secret."

Detecting is hard: you can have technical problems mistaken for censorship, for instance.

Speaking of , (the first censored domain) is still blocked on some resolvers (spurious NXDOMAIN seen). Censorship lags…

@bortzmeyer moi je suis censuré par Censure communautariste !

Question in the room: any technique used in France, besides lying? (Apparently, no, more info is welcome.)

@bortzmeyer There's still the "Toulouse Black List" applied at http proxies (squidgard) by many entities.
Deciding if it's censorship or protection of children is left as an exercise for the reader.

@mherrb The discussion focused mostly on "public" censorship, censorship done in public ISP. Corporate censorship may be a different issue.

@mherrb It _is_ censorship, no doubt about that (unless you practice newspeak). The question is "is it legitimate?"

@bortzmeyer @mherrb

I use it, on my own network -> reduce advertisement and so on, reduce bandwitch usage, better flow. And I still access #pr0n.

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